The Very Reverend Winnie Sara Varghese is an American Episcopal priest serves as the 12th Dean of the Cathedral of St. John the Divine in New York City. Tori and I are thrilled to talk to any queer woman of Indian descent who is a pastor, but to do so at the intersectino of what's going on in our world and this podcast is an honor. I hope you'll find Winnie on her substack page.